Thursday, January 28, 2010

Philly Cheese Steaks (FD)

map of philadelphia showing where the cheese steak sandwich originated
Deep in the south of Philadelphia, located in an largely Italian neighborhood, at the intersections of 9th Street, Wharton & Passyunk Avenues, lies the pulsing not so culinary heart of the city. On this hardly holy ground, you will find both, the birth place and sources of the world re-known Philly Cheese Steak.

And I'm (almost, but not totally) ashamed to say, I've never been there, but the history and ongoing family and political controversies are fascinating.

So, get in line, order yourself a "Cheese Wit" or perhaps a "Cheese wit-out-insides out" while you read on.

a cheese steak
Pat's King of Steaks was founded by Pat and Harry Olivieri in 1930 when the brothers opened a hot dog stand in south Philadelphia. The brothers are generally credited as being the co-creators of the Philly Steak Sandwich.

In 1933, the brothers were busy in their hot dog stand, when they decided to try something new for lunch. I guess three years of nothing but hot dogs will do that to you - or perhaps they ran out of Ketchup.

Legend has it, Pat sent Harry to the market for some inexpensive steak. The brothers thinly sliced the steak, then grilled it along with some chopped onions. The aroma attracted a cabdriver who was a regular customer; he asked to try the dish which the brothers called a steak sandwich. So, Pat sold him a sandwich for ten cents.

Pat's King of Steaks restaraunt
Soon afterwards, the brothers started selling steak sandwiches instead of hot dogs. By 1940, they had saved enough to rent space to open a restaurant at the very same spot that they had their hot dog stand. The two brothers worked at the restaurant for 15 to 18 hours a day for the next few decades while the restaurant was open 24 hours a day.

Geno's Steak Restaraunt
By 1960s, there were other businesses in the area selling similar steak sandwiches. Long-time competitor Geno's Steaks claimed they were the first to add cheese to the recipe, though Harry Olivieri's son, Frank, claims he first added Cheese Whiz in 1950s.

The two restaurants, located diagonally across the street from each other, became cultural and culinary landmarks.

Technically, Pat's does not claim to sell cheese steaks, but steak sandwiches, although the Cheez Whiz variant is the most popular. Pat's menu is very similar to that of Geno's; both use thinly-sliced rib eye steak. Pat's chops up its meat, however, while Geno's does not.

A sign at the door explains how to order; you ask for what variety of sandwich you want and then say "wit" or "wit-out" (that is, whether you want the sandwich with or without onions), a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Philadelphia accent.

"Insides out" means to tear out (and feed to the pigeons) some of the bread found in the hearty sandwich rolls.

You can have your Cheese steak with Cheez Whiz, Provolone, Cheez Whiz, American cheese, Cheez Whiz, Swiss cheese or with Cheez Whiz, or have it "Plain" (no cheese at all).

I've never quite understood the "Cheese Steak Plain" business... I mean, its just a Steak Sandwich to me...

A "real" Philadelphia native, I'm told, orders his or hers, "Whiz, wit."

Ugh, Cheese Whiz. It's definitely a good thing that I live in the 'burbs... :)


Geno's Steaks was founded in 1966 by Joe Vento. Geno's is located directly across the street from rival Pat's King of Steaks.

According to Vento, the name Geno's was chosen because Joe's Steak Place was already being used by another business (imagine that!) He improvised the name from a broken door on which someone had painted GINO and modified the spelling to prevent confusion with a regional fast food chain called Gino's.

Vento later named his own son Geno, and the latter now works in the family business.

Both the Olivieri and Vento families have been in the news, as their extended families have opened up restaurants selling, what else? Cheese Steak Sandwiches, complete with trademark and copyright infringement suits along with claims and counterclaims of being the "one true real purveyor" of the Philly Cheese Steak.

I'm told this is authentic recipe (here) for those of you that just can't wait to get to Philadelphia to try one out.

As for me, I'm just going to have a hot dog and a soft pretzel.

Pat's King of Steaks
Geno's Steaks

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh Josh is gonna love this post! You're combing his favorite things: history, random facts and Cheesesteak!!

Martha said...

I'll save the trip to the South Philly and head on over to Blue Bell for a PUDGE's! I like mine with american cheese and wit (fried onions).

Thanks for the history!

Yankee Girl said...

That's awesome. We are going to hit up both places when we are there. You know, to make comparisons.

Pamela said...

my husband always talks about how much he enjoyed those sandwiches in Philadelphia.

I will probably never try one - as I gave up eating red meat about 20 years ago. (maybe even longer)

This has been a very fact filled post -- and now I think I know mine would be ordered wit whiz, wit out steak. ha ha

aladdinsane12 said...

i have heard of geno's, but my insider sources tell me that dalessandro's takes the cake (or should i say 'takes the steak'- ha, that was awful)

i haven't actually ever had a philly cheesesteak. cheese whiz on meat is not my idea of a delicious dish.

jewelrybyrebecca said...

Cheese wiz...I had no idea. Is that even real cheese???

So soft pretzel... Mustard on 'dat???

yellowdoggranny said...

I'd rather have a skunk egg.

Rita said...

Never have eaten one. Makes me wonder if they sell them someplace up here in the North Country. Probably. I'd like to try one someday--but not enough to make my own--hehe! :)

You're always letting us in on a lot of interesting facts! :)

Linda :) said...

Swiss, wit... Please.... mmmmm.....
hot dogs are good too with onions and relish.... :)

AliceKay said...

The first time I ever ate a cheesesteak was on our honeymoon in Wildwood, New Jersey. Terri was stationed at the Coast Guard base across the river from Philadelphia at the time and always raved about something called a cheesesteak. I don't think they used cheese whiz on those we had in New Jersey, but I don't really know. All I know is that I've loved them ever since. I'm pretty sure they use American cheese at the places around here. The pizza shop next to the Kmart I go to makes the best in the area. We get ours "wit out".

I love soft pretzels, but I don't want anything on them but a little salt. Hey, I even love hot dogs...imagine that. :)

Nice post, Iggy. Makes me hungry for a cheesesteak, even though I just finished supper a little while ago. LOL

Anonymous said...

Judging by those pictures with all the cars around them I would say they are both definitely doing great business..I want a Philly Cheesesteak now "wit-out" please, yummers:o)

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LadyStyx said...

mmmmmmmmmmm Cheesesteak! Make mine Wit, Inside Out and top it wit Provolone.....

Wendyburd1 said...

Hey, I wanted to say thanks for your comments on yesterdays post. I appreciate it a LOT. I am glad your Dad is feeling better too. And I am hungry now!

betty said...

wit-out for me but Provolone cheese; is cheese whiz even made with cheese?

wow can you imagine working 15-18 hours a day or having the restaurant opened 24 hours? surely they served other things other than cheesesteaks?

confession here, I've never had a sandwich like this, not even an imitation one. I don't think they make them here (LOL)

betty

Anonymous said...

I think I'll stick to the hotdog, actually.

Lainie said...

The best 'Steak and Cheese' subs around here are at Bob Nadeaus House of Subs in Manchester. They use chunky steak with American cheese and you can have them plain or with whatever veggies you want, peppers, onions and the like. We go there once or twice a year and it is a great treat. But I would love to try a Philly Chesesteak one of these days.
Nice post Iggy!

Furry Bottoms said...

Chez Whiz, huh? That does make it easier to make, I suppose.

I might try one someday, but inside-wit-out-cheezy!

Queenie Jeannie said...

So hungry now, lol!

I love the lovely history tours you take us on!!!!!

Cheez whiz - ewww, gross!!

I'd like mine with Swiss and no onions!!!!

JennyMac said...

do not get mad at me Iggy, but I am not down with the Philly Cheese. Wit or wit out. LOL. Have a great weekend! My brother is on his way here so I am unplugging.

Matty said...

There are so many good Philly cheese steak places around. Gotta agree with Martha. Pudges is real good.

AiringMyLaundry said...

Oh gosh, now I'm hungry.

I remember seeing the owners of both places go on Dr. Phil at one point. Dr. Phil said they were both equally good but he was probably just saying that.

African American Mom said...

Oh I am so hungry now from looking at that picture. I'll take mine wit!

Was that sandwich one serving? It was huge.

sugarlens said...

Geno's looks too flashy, I think I would try Pat's instead. Either way, it's wit-out cheez whiz for me! Not sure if I said that right...

Martha said...

Hey, I heard all about it on TV! It was on one of the diner food network shows awhile back!

Hope all has been well in your world Iggy. Miss seeing you over at TMS with us.

Celticspirit said...

That makes me hungry. There is nothing like a good cheese steak.

Deanna said...

How in the world did you sneak this one in on me??? It never showed up on my blog roll. And this lady absolutely loves philly cheese steak, but I have to settle for Missouri style.

Who would have guessed it was such a science, huh.

Hot dog and soft pretzel sounds pretty good too.

Debbie said...

I love the stories of how famous foods were created. Great tale.

jmt said...

We currently have two brothers, twins, on our (our meaning my college) basketball team from Philly. I do believe in an interview they mentioned both Pat's and Geno's....but I also want to say that they said they hadn't actually had either of those either. I could totally be remembering this story wrong though.

My previous place of employment had a cafeteria with a grill dude...he made a really good philly steak sandwich. Mmmm. Came with provolone, onions and peppers. On a toasted hoagie. OMGoodness, I want one. Now.

ChicagoLady said...

Provolone wit-out, please!

Good thing I already had dinner, or this post would have made me very hungry.